Ways To Make More Money From Your Membership Website in 2026

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The Show’s Main Transcript

[00:00:16.960] – Jonathan Denwood

Welcome back, folks, to the Membership Machine show. This is episode 163. It’s me and my great co-host Kurt. He’s not feeding very well. He’s been a trooper. He’s also been listening. He’s been supportive of me. I’ve been a bit down lately. But we should have a good show, folks. We’re going to be talking about how to make more money from your membership website in 2026. Really important subject. So Kurt, would you like to introduce yourself to the listeners and viewers?

[00:00:51.050] – Kurt von Ahnen

Absolutely. My name is Kurt Von Ahnin. I own an agency called Manana Nomas, and we also work directly with the great teams at Lifter, LMS, and WP Tonic.

[00:01:01.120] – Jonathan Denwood

That’s fantastic. So it should be a great show. We’ve got some really good tips to give to you. But before we go into the show, I got a message from one of our major sponsors. We will be back in a few moments, folks.

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[00:01:47.280] – Jonathan Denwood

We’re coming back, folks. Before we get into the meat of the show, I also want to point out that we’ve got a great course from Kirk, plus some special offers from our sponsors. Plus, a list of the best WordPress plugins and services. If you’re building a membership website, you can get all these offers and freebies by going to wp-tonic.com/deals. So this goes straight into it. So, like, there’s definitely a pattern about how you can make more money. You know, what are your initial thoughts about this subjec,t and when I brought it up, what did you initially think?

[00:02:39.520] – Kurt von Ahnen

Well, first off, I think listeners and viewers, especially those new to the show, probably need to understand a little bit about our process, and that’s how Jonathan comes up with these great ideas and then usually shows notes. And so as I was looking through the show Notes for today’s show, I thought, yep, yep, yep. Like, the checkbox for, like, we’re going to teach people how to make money through courses and memberships. These all make sense. But in the back of my mind, I was like, each one of these, it’s so important to consider the timing or the release or the. Because a lot of people come too early to market with something, a feature, and then it’s not well accepted or well adopted, and then you lose energy. And so it’s, it’s. I think there are some really good things here to talk about, Jonathan, but I think there’s such an opportunity for people to get this out of order or get things out of whack when they’re trying to put together their community program. And it can cause, it can cause the, almost the reverse effect.

[00:03:42.780] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, I think you made a great insight there. Because none of these things that we’re going to be talking about will, will save a failing membership business. You know, and I, we do. Kirk helps me out on two shows, and we did the other show this morning. I was talking about a YouTube influencer who runs a course where he’s had a lot of success, generating quality leads for people who are. Got different services, but a lot of them are in the membership sector, using YouTube to generate qualified leads. And this is a guy called Ed Lawrence of Storyos, and he’s about pointing out that you don’t need the enormous audience on YouTube, you just. But you need the right audience and a good landing page, blah blah blah. But you need a mechanism to get people who could benefit from your course to your landing page. It’s your homepage or a Pacific landing page course offering. It doesn’t have to be elaborate. That’s the other thing. If you’ve got multiple courses and you’re established, yeah, you need a lot of different funnels and that.

[00:05:27.610] – Jonathan Denwood

But people tend to overcomplicate too early, and they think elaborate funnels are gonna really help them. And it’s not, you want to keep it simple, folks, but complicated in other ways because you really have to know who your target audience is. Who’s your ideal viewer on YouTube or tick tock or Instagram, whatever? And I, I really think video, short video, long video on these different platforms is probably the best way to generate interest in your membership website in 2026 if you haven’t got a big budget and most people haven’t, or you haven’t got a lot of a reasonably good email list. I think the two, if you haven’t got a list, the two things that you probably need, you probably need a lower E offering to offer people so they, they will exchange it for their email name and email, and the normal offering that you get them to sign up. Basically,y they’re the two main things. But where are you going to get eyeballs? What’s the quickest way? Well, if you look at SEO, I still believe in SEO; it’s become very turbulent over the last 18 months.

[00:07:08.210] – Jonathan Denwood

Very, very turbulent. But you can still be effective. But it’s going to take time. I also recommend going for paid traffic. Even if you got the budget, you’re going to have to do it yourself. And it’s a, you know, I would only choose one paid platform, either Google or Meta, Facebook, and it’s going to be a learning exercise. I think Facebook is making it easier to run campaigns, but it’s still a learning curve, and I certainly wouldn’t recommend that either. Even if you had the budget, because you got approved for the offering first. I think using short-form video is the way to go across different platforms. So, after you’ve had an accessible first launch and it’s building traction, I think you can look at some other courses, and then you can look at the things we’re talking about. What do you reckon, Kurt?

[00:08:34.020] – Kurt von Ahnen

I, I kind of agree with you there, Jonathan. You need energy. I, I, I keep using the word “energy” because I don’t have a better term for “momentum energy”. You need that audience to interact. That interactivity is what you need for the site to have life, and once it has some life, yeah, you can leverage it to grow and expand. Right. So, community, obviously, we need people in the space to form a community, and that would be the same for the group coaching idea. Right. So if we were going to do group coaching, you would still need to have, you know, an audience, a group of people together. So when you were talking about you know, short form video and different ways to promote your project, you know, getting that, getting that first handful, couple of handfuls of people in, and creating that energy, that interactivity, that’s huge. And then from that, I think this list that we’re talking about today of different thingss I think you would want to figure out for your niche or for your audience or for your, maybe you ask their opinion and get their feedback. But like what order would you like to release things in?

[00:09:48.680] – Kurt von Ahnen

You know, not Everybody needs an interactive community. Not everybody needs group coaching. But, you know, there are different niches, different platforms that do really well with those things. And so you want to find out if yours has the potential to be one of those.

[00:10:05.060] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, like I said, it was a little bit long-winded. But what I’m really saying is if your launch, your initial launch, and you’re thinking to add community or to add any of the things that we’re talking about, is going to save your membership launch, it’s not, in my opinion, it’s not, it’s just not gonna buy me. It’s not gonna happen. You’ve got problems with the offering. You’re not, you know, the only way you’re gonna attract people is, you know, with TikTok, with Instagram, with YouTube shorts and longer YouTube videos.

[00:10:58.600] – Kurt von Ahnen

I want to, I want to break in here for a moment because I’m worried that we might be leading people down a path without setting up the background.

[00:11:07.320] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, sure.

[00:11:08.520] – Kurt von Ahnen

And that is, we’re talking about sales, we’re talking about increasing your revenue through your community learning membership product. Right. Your project. It is a numbers game, folks. Like, just because you have 50 people on your website doesn’t mean 50 people are coming to your mastermind. It’s very much the opposite. And so when I am working as an agency, and I’m working with clients, and they’re going, oh my God, what would I do if I had 200 people sign up? I couldn’t do a mastermind, I couldn’t do a group coaching session. It’s a numbers game. You need a lot of people to get a little participation. There is a statistic out there that says if you have a community of people, Facebook, fan page, whatever, you have a community of people, and you want to do a live event, they say, factor in that your live event will have a 2% participation rate. So if you have 100 people on your list, 2 people are going to show up. And that’s why, like, when people are scheduling live events, they do so prematurely, and they kind of fall flat on their faces sometimes.

[00:12:21.290] – Kurt von Ahnen

That’s why. Because they need to have a thousand people in order to drive the number. They need to fill a conference room in a hotel. It’s very similar with your website. You could have a ton of people sign up for a course, but when it comes to the live group coaching, only a small percentage of people are going to make themselves available at that moment for that live session.

[00:12:42.890] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, it’s a great point. So what I just wanted to make this is really not if you’re just about launch or you just six months in, it’s really for people that have had got the wheel moving and they’ve got members in and it is increasing, but they just want to increase how much they earn from each or the possibility offering extra services. So Community, well, Community covers a lot of things, but it covers really what like WordPress with fluent community, BuddyBoss or in SaaS, it’s really covered by a mighty network called Circle. They’re the main four players. We love WordPress. You get both Fluent Community and Buddy Boss if you host with WP Tonic. But you like what Kirk said, a lot of people, you need a fair bit of engagement. You need a mono, you need to monitor it, you need to fill in the content, get the ball. It’s a lot of extra work it will make but you can charge extra and it will make your membership more sticky and you’ll get less churn if you’re doing it effectively. What do you reckon, Kurt?

[00:14:14.260] – Kurt von Ahnen

I agree, I agree. The only thing that I question is, you know when we say you’ll make more money like you can charge more for it. The pricing is always contingent upon the value you actually provide and, and you know that, that seesaw of value versus cost and so I really hesitate to talk about pricing with people, especially in an ambiguous way. Community sometimes adds the stickiness but doesn’t add the cost advantage. In any case, it’s still a bonus for you if you had a course where people would finish the course in three months and disappear, but then you added Community and they would pay an extra 20 bucks a month, 30 bucks a month, 50 bucks a month to be part of your community. That would reduce, reduce your churn and keep them in past the three months and what work is really involved there? You know, if you had a couple of people moderating for you, it, it would really not be that much good.

[00:15:14.560] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, I think it’s a good time for us to go for a mental break folks. When we come back, we’ve got a number of other things we want to discuss which we’re going to do quickly. I’m going to waffle less. We will be back in a few moments.

[00:15:29.070] – Speaker 5

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[00:16:06.310] – Jonathan Denwood

We’re coming back, folks. So how can you make more money from your membership website in 2026? We made it clear that a lot of this stuff won’t work. If you’re starting out, I, I really wouldn’t recommend a lot of this, but if you got the wheel rolling, these things we’re going to be outlining could increase how much money you make from each membership and make it more sticky and just a better value proposition to your students. So. But before I go into it, I also want to point out that we do a great newsletter. I write it myself. I also create some stories that are the best I found during the week and I put it into a newsletter. It’s totally free. And you can get this, you can sign up for it by going over to WP hyphen tonic.com newsletter wp-tonic.com newsletter on to the next one. One to one coaching. So I’m gonna, I’m just gonna read out what was on my list actually. And then so I’ve got community, group coaching, one to one coaching, masterminds, partner deals, affiliate deals. So one to one. So group coaching, that, that’s kind of mixed in some ways with community.

[00:17:37.070] – Jonathan Denwood

But I say that you, you can have, you could just utilize Zoom

[00:17:42.940] – Speaker 5

and

[00:17:43.100] – Jonathan Denwood

have a group coaching session, can’t you? You don’t, you don’t have to have something like Fluent Community. I think Fluent Community. If you can go and have it all under your control, it’s probably best. But I don’t know what you think, but you can start off just with Zoom or something else. Can’t.

[00:18:07.030] – Kurt von Ahnen

This takes us back to the beginning of the show when I said I think features need to be added in a special sequence and with the, with the consideration of timing. So I’m a big fan of the good, better, best pricing strategy. And so in this situation, community would be the good, group coaching would be the better, and one to one coaching would be the best. And so Community is asynchronous communication, right? It’s available 24 7, but it’s not direct, like chatting. It’s not direct advice. It’s not a conversation necessarily. It’s like texting almost, right. You’re in a community platform. It’s like being in a Facebook page. So I think the lowest cost of entry, everybody gets access to the community. And then as the project grows and again, energy, people Audience as it grows, you move on and you add group coaching and you say, hey, for the better pricing feature. Right. So a little more money, you can come to group coaching. It’s a live call, we share things in real time. And. And so got to remember, when people are looking at a, at a coaching site or an educational site, what they really want is access to the creator.

[00:19:21.840] – Kurt von Ahnen

What they’re really looking for is that relationship or access to the creator, the source of information. Because in the age of AI, if they wanted to learn something, they could just ask AI to teach them something. Right. So they’re really looking for relationship. So the best pricing model is that one to one communication where if I’m coaching or consulting with somebody, they have my undivided attention, one on one. And so I think of things in terms of good, better, best, and each of those gets a refined layer of access to whoever the creator is.

[00:19:58.180] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, greatly put. So. And then we got onetoone coaching which, like what Kirk said this, the, a lot of this, it’s kind of step by step. You offer these, these offerings in a kind of pattern. And you can find a lot of advice on the Internet on, I choose on YouTube about how you do this, or you can book a consultation with Kirk or with WP Tonic and we’d be more than happy to give you some advice on this. Masterminds. What, what do you. I kind of see the bigger influences. They did. They did masterminds in a group. They had a general group and then they had. And then they tended to combine that with an actual physical meetup somewhere, which was the mastermind. And I think that this was abused a bit. But I think if it’s done in a sensible ethical way, it does offer a value. What do you reckon?

[00:21:15.750] – Kurt von Ahnen

I agree with you in an overused term. Coaching, by the way, to me is an overused term.

[00:21:23.310] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah.

[00:21:24.390] – Kurt von Ahnen

So coaching to me is not the same as teaching. Coaching is, you know, asking someone the right questions to help them pull the answer from themselves. That’s, that’s the real definition of coaching. And masterminds to me is, is a similar misuse of a term. So I like what you said, you know, it’s kind of like group coaching, but it culminates in some type of a live interactive workshop or something like that. When I think of masterminds, I think of masterminds being a much more focused, higher level group of people. I picture group coaching being like anybody can come entry level through whatever the ranks are as far as the progress in the training or the Subject matter or whatever. And I picture masterminds as being like, you know, the expert guild. Right. Like these are people that have completed the training, whatever the training is. They’re at the, the top of the knowledge base for whatever that centered topic is. And, and they get access to the mastermind because they have completed or passed or are going to another phase. That’s the way I look at masterminds, really. I don’t look at masterminds as being like anyone can come, regardless of exposure.

[00:22:39.180] – Kurt von Ahnen

I’d like to say there needs to be some kind of a, some kind of a qualifier to get into the mastermind.

[00:22:46.300] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. Yep. And then you got partner deals. And what do I mean, partner deals? Well, it’s finding partners, people that got other businesses, not that are not in direct competition that with what you’re offering, but they have, they feel they will get benefit in working with you either on podcasts or video. Video. Or depending on the deal or the partnership, they might have a bigger email list than you. And these type of arrangements are not easy, but they can make a big difference. What do you reckon?

[00:23:35.770] – Kurt von Ahnen

They can be very fruitful. You have to be creative and you have to be open minded. I refer to this project a lot because it’s my pet project. It’s my passion project. I teach motorcycle dealerships how to increase their parts and labor sales. I’m a, I’m a service expert. But the truth is most dealers that buy training for their dealerships are more focused on sales. And so to Jonathan’s point, I made a partnership with a group that sells sales training to motorcycle dealerships. And as part of that association, as part of that, you know, partnership, I get access to their dealer base and they actually sell the training for me. So for them, the, the added benefit for them because it’s got to be a symbiotic thing, right? It’s got to be both people win. It’s got to be a win win. They didn’t have service content to benefit their dealers. And I honestly didn’t have really great access to the owners of dealerships that would make the purchase decision because I wasn’t focused on sales, I was focused on service. And so by partnering with this third party, this other company that’s been able to join us in a way that has created revenue for us and provided a service for them.

[00:24:49.730] – Kurt von Ahnen

And that’s what you’re looking for. You’re looking for a way to have a win win setup, a win win situation. The only better situation for me where I’m kind of Losing out would be if I had direct access to their mail list and you know all that, you know, if I got into the room with all of the owners all the time that would be really awesome. But that’s, you know, that you would have to really build some trust with a company owner to get access to their client list like that.

[00:25:17.020] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. And lastly got affiliate marketing which is you just offering a cut but worked in the past, can still work now. You’re going to have to do outreach, you’re going to have to speak to people. If you got no relationships in the particular industry that you’re offering the m. The course in, it’s going to be, you know, it’s going to be, it’s not going to be easy. But none of this is easy, is it? It’s all, it’s all possible but it’s all work as well, isn’t it?

[00:26:06.380] – Kurt von Ahnen

Affiliates is the one for me, Jonathan, that I have miserably failed at and I don’t see success with. However, that said caveat on all my opinions. They’re just my opinions. I’ve seen other people succeed unbelievably well. A great working example, Lifter LMS has affiliate arrangements with a ton of other plugin providers that are non competitive to them and they make referrals to use things all the time with Lifter LMS and they’ve get, they get affiliate commissions from it all the time. Me, not so much. Every time I’ve tried to either create an affiliate program for my products or piggyback on someone else’s affiliate program to draw commissions, it just doesn’t seem to have worked for me. But again I’ve seen other people succeed very well in that space. If you remember. Do you remember the Clickbank? Yeah, yeah. To me was the scammiest thing on the planet. I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Of course I signed up and I took the courses and all kinds of stuff and I’m going to learn how to do this and I’m going to build my own affiliate link pages and I’m going to, you know, I’m going to rake it in and I didn’t rake it in at all.

[00:27:18.830] – Kurt von Ahnen

I really struggled with because they would say coy things in the trading like all you got to do is point traffic at your link and Bob’s your uncle, you’re going to be a millionaire. And I’m like where do I get the traffic from?

[00:27:30.480] – Jonathan Denwood

Well, we all have, you know. Well that’s what happened, you know, in 2024 and I can’t believe we’re in the beginning, the third leave. Well, we’re still in the first quarter, 2026. So it’s over two years now, two or 18 months. When Google brought out a core update, it just destroyed the blog, informational review, affiliate industry. Yeah, it just decimated it. And there are still some legitimate courses about writing content. I think you can still, funny enough, it’s, it’s also very competitive on YouTube, on tick tock. I think it’s very, very competitive, but almost everything is. But the only people that are making any money from affiliate have a good presence, a good audience on YouTube, have using tick Tock, using Instagram. But the days of. There are some sites that recovered. I know that there’s some affiliate review sites that do a fantastic job, spend a lot of time. Google’s got its own instructions about what it considers as quality content. And it really tells reviews, especially review sites, what Google really expects. You know, that you got, you know, it’s clearly that you’ve tried the products that you got actual real pictures of the product, you got videos of you trying the product, trying other products that you got good domain authority, blah, blah, blah.

[00:29:33.080] – Jonathan Denwood

And because after this core update, it, it really not the whole affiliate industry, but we, you know, it’s all about timing as well. You know, look at Adam Presley Presser of WP Crafter. He, he got into YouTube at the right time and he was religious. He, he made loads of videos. He was, they were, they weren’t technically fantastic edited that. Edited videos. He did do edits, but he had a good, a good way of coming across to the audience and the audience really loved him, didn’t they? He’s still doing some, but he doesn’t do anything like he used to. Too busy. But he built up one of the largest WordPress audiences going on YouTube, didn’t he? And that. And he, he made, he’s been quite public about it. He made a lot of money out affiliate marketing, didn’t he?

[00:30:37.570] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, yeah.

[00:30:38.850] – Jonathan Denwood

Good luck to him.

[00:30:41.010] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. No, sometimes people really hit the timing and everything else just right.

[00:30:45.170] – Jonathan Denwood

I think then he, he was not known in the WordPress community at all, was he? He was a total, you know, he hadn’t ever gone to WordCamp. I think we met, I met him when he was going to his first Word camp. He got in with Astra as well, built that business relationship. But he was not known in the WordPress community. It didn’t matter because he had audience. That’s what really mattered, wouldn’t it?

[00:31:17.580] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. Having the audiences is key. And it’s so interesting, Jonathan, because we’re talking about how to make more money with your membership or with your community site. And it’s, you know, people might be hearing us talk about someone like Adam and going, well, that’s nice. I could never get there. Well, you got to think of it in terms like he did. You know, the first step is to get started, you know, and so you got to get started, you got to start generating some content. You got to have something worthwhile for people to see. Right. And then I really hold to the idea that the things we’ve discussed today will lead to success. But you, you can’t jump the gun. Like, you can’t just put out the website, add the community features immediately, go to group coaching. Like, you’ve got to let it build. You’ve got to let it kind of bubble up and then let the audience kind of pull those features from you. When I talked to Chris from Lifter lms, he’s got a really cool way of just saying, you know, product market fit. When, when your people are begging you for the service or begging you for the content, he’s like, that’s when, you know, you’ve hit the spot.

[00:32:23.810] – Kurt von Ahnen

You know, wait till they ask for it, wait till they demand it and then kind of feed them a little taste of it and then give them a little bit more. They get more buy in. They feel like they’re having some input and it really grows loyalty. And that stickiness that Jonathan was talking about.

[00:32:39.010] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, right. You, I like to ask you about, Kirk’s been working with a particular client and that’s got a makeup that is in the area of makeup and you built, you’ve done a fair bit of consultation and, and I’m not, I can’t remember if you actually built the site. I presume you did site in with Lifter LMS.

[00:33:11.170] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, it’s a Lifter LMS website. It’s called artofmakeup.com it’s really pretty website.

[00:33:15.940] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, it’s a nice website. Folks, go and have a look at it. But you said that she’s managed, she’s managed to get the ball rolling. She’s managed to get 25 plus students. Yeah, like that. I brought this up. Hopefully, I’m not breaking any confidence. I’m not doing any wrong in bringing this up. I just thought it was good. If you have any idea how she got those first 25 students, hard work.

[00:33:46.100] – Kurt von Ahnen

I mean, it sounds like I’m being, you know, condescending. To say it like that. But, but, but it’s. She has gotten herself on TV shows, like the morning show, to do a segment. Right. So we have a video of her on a morning show doing makeup. She does, like, special-effects makeup, wedding makeup, beauty, and all that stuff. And she teaches, she’s taught people who are famous. Like, there are different TV shows with makeup competitions or whatever. She’s worked with some of those people. And so you’ve got name recognition, you’ve got exposure, you’ve, you know, doing the hard work. And I know that she’s put in effort on other things, like growing the mailing list and bringing in other professionals or consultants to work in different areas, like social media, marketing, SEO, and other areas. And folks, that’s kind of our point, that some people think we build it and they will come, and that’s just not true, especially in today’s loud marketplace. In today’s loud marketplace, you have to do the work. And at the risk of maybe saying things in a weird way, she tried some things that didn’t work right.

[00:34:57.500] – Kurt von Ahnen

And there were some expenses that were spent where the return on investment wasn’t there. But what she learned was that’s not where my people are. So now I need to switch gears and go where my people are. Right. There’s going to be some wins, there’s going to be some losses. The trick is to look at your analytics, to look at the direction your business is going, because it is a business, look at the direction your business is going, and then double down on the successful moments. And so I’m really proud of her because when I look at Art of Makeup, a, it’s a beautiful website. Her content’s amazing. She’s really good at what she does. I think she’s one of the best in the market. Oddly enough, as ugly as I am, I’ve worked on like three different beauty projects, and I think this is one of the best. So I really hope that she has nothing but success with it. She’s really awesome.

[00:35:47.810] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. But I think the key things are that, like, she’s been on traditional media, she has got a mailing list, and she has got some partners.

[00:35:59.350] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah.

[00:35:59.670] – Jonathan Denwood

That’s why she’s managed not to have a mega launch, because she wouldn’t cope with it anyway. But she’s learning the process. She’s. She’s had a successful launch, hasn’t she?

[00:36:12.310] – Kurt von Ahnen

I would say so. And it took time. It did take time. But now with that momentum, the key is momentum. It’s one of the 21 irrefutable laws of leadership. Right.

[00:36:24.150] – Jonathan Denwood

Well, it’s not running out of money. Yeah. It’s momentum, perspiration. They’re not running out of resources before you’re going to get some success, aren’t they?

[00:36:34.920] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. Yeah. The trick is to double down on the momentum, though. Like what? Like when things start going well, you’ve got to get excited, and you’ve got to double down, and you just gotta. You gotta expose as many wins as possible. So with this seed of students, now should come the video testimonials and, you know, really litter the site with people who are happy. People like what they took. They saw value in the courseware. Like all of that needs to happen with this influx of students and momentum. And if we do this right, she’s going to grow, and she’s going to be fine.

[00:37:10.930] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, right. What’s the best way for people to find out more about you, what you’re up to, Kurt?

[00:37:16.690] – Kurt von Ahnen

To connect with me directly, just use LinkedIn. I’m the only Kurt von Onen on LinkedIn, so it’s easy to find me. And then for business, Manana Nomas on all the social channels and manana nomas.com

[00:37:30.050] – Jonathan Denwood

And if you are looking for some of the best hosting and support, and for your tech and marketing partner, why don’t you look at WP Tonic? We’ve got some fabulous offerings. I think we offer the best service in the WordPress membership community space. Kirk’s part of the team. We got a ton to offer. We will be back next week with another insightful show. We’ll see you soon, folks. Bye.

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