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I know of no other area in the WordPress community where so much nonsense is expressed on a regular basis as there is connected to hosting and WordPress.

If you have a membership or WooCommerce WordPress website, I don’t think shared hosting is going to work for you. In this episode, we’re going to be looking a new kind of VPS WordPress hosting that seem to offer great value and power.

We have a great interview here with Constantinos Coudounaris, who is the owner of WPHostingSpot, which is a new type of hosting company. Listen to the interview and then look at the what Constantinos and his team are offering in terms of performance and value.

Constantinos has been generous to offer a special 20% discount to the WP-Tonic community. When buying one of the WPHostingSpot packages, use the promotional code ‘wptonic‘ and you will a 20% recurring monthly discount. That’s one amazing offer!

>About WPHostingSpot

WPHostingSpot offers WordPress Managed Hosting. We believe that WordPress is a very powerful application however due to how powerful it is and due to how huge adoption it has it is equally as important to be managed correctly and this is what we do, we leave the design and development of the site to you and we manage anything related to the technical side of things, from keeping your WordPress site secure, to keeping it up to date with any latest updates.

We use our own customized stacks optimized specifically for WordPress sites to o#er a stellar service, this along with partnering with stellar providers such as Linode, Digital Ocean and Vultr makes this the perfect package.

Our goal is simple: Make your site load as fast as possible, maintain the best possible up-time. We are proud to say “Performance Hosting” is more than a slogan – it is the way we do hosting.

About Constantinos Coudounaris

What Your Favorite Motivation or Business Books?

I don’t have something specific, I motivate myself through work and life – I spend time both with my dogs and my girlfriend when not working and make it a point to have fun during that time and re-energize myself.

Can You List 3 to 5 Life Success or Leadership Principles?

I personally see all of our members as members of our community, we will provide unlimited assistance and go above and beyond what any other hosting provider does continuously.

Personally one of the most important principles is to love what you do, love your work and also show this love through assisting members with any support inquiries. I’m always on the lookup for further improving our services, because nothing is perfect and there is always room for improvement as I spend a set amount of time on daily basis just focusing on ways to improve our services and further perfect them.

Customer satisfaction is my primary goal, going that extra mile to help a customer is what I consider customer service. Customer service isn’t just about answering the question the client has sent, its also about how it’s answered.

Setting big goals is also what I do, even if you can’t reach the goal setting a big goal is very important. I set goals, both big and small on a daily basis because by setting goals you will progress in your life and in your business. you need to always aim high.

Transcript

JD: Thank you Costas, and we’re live. Hi there folks, this is WP Tonic Episode 114. We’ve got a fantastic show here folks. We’re going to bring light about the best value WordPress Hosting options you can get for your money, and we’ve got a fantastic guest.

I’ve totally butchered their name, but I’m going to have a go, it’s Costas [Constantinos Coudounaris], thanks for joining us Costas, would you like to introduce yourself properly? Can you?

CC: Yes, thank you for the opportunity, so my name is Costas and I’m the owner of WP Hosting Spot and we specialize in providing managed WordPress solutions.

JD: That’s great, and I’ve got my beloved and extremely patient co-host, John Locke. Would you like to introduce yourself, John?

JL: Sure thing, my name is John Locke, and I run a small WordPress web design agency in Sacramento, called Lockedown Design.

JD: Now John, weren’t you really impressed with my total inability to pronounce my guests name?

JL: We got you to a good place.

JD: Costas, they were extremely patient actually but it’s a bit embarrassing…but nobody understands what I’m saying anyway, John, so it doesn’t really matter. So, Costas you’ve recently taken over the company but you’ve got many, many years in hosting.

Your WP Hosting Spot is a bit different than your traditional hosting company, isn’t it?

Would you like to explain what the major difference is? I feel it’s really exciting.

CC: Yeah, of course it’s extremely different than any normal shared hosting solution. Which they usually offer cPanel or some sort of control panel and so, one click.

But they’re usually not optimized for WordPress sites. They’re just generic hosts, they’re there to offer the basic hosting, but they’re not really optimized. They don’t offer VPS solutions, they’re just normal hosting companies, so WP Hosting Spot, what we do here is we offer managed WordPress solutions. We’re specialized in WordPress on offering WordPress solutions. We also integrate with Key CDN. All of our stacks include Nginx by default, something that you don’t really see amongst the shared hosting companies, amongst most of them.

JD: Yeah but the other fact, Costas, is that you know, you’re using about three different companies, one of them is Digital Ocean, and Linode and another unpronounceable, for me, unpronounceable company [Vultr]. But I’m a big fan, everybody knows I’m a big fan of Digital Ocean. So you offer three, really valued options with three different companies. But, you’re offering a kind of 24-hour support, over these frameworks. Is that a good way [to describe it] or have I totally butchered the real explanation?

CC: Yeah, so we’re basically taking this big hosting companies — which they’re known for providing stability. They offer a great service, all three of them, both Digital Ocean and Vultr — and we add on top of their service, we build, we have our own stack that we deploy on the VPS. Then we add fully managed 24-hour support on them, specializing in WordPress, because they just basically offer the hardware let’s say, and we just, we offer the rest.

We offer the support, we install our own stacks, which are optimized specifically for WordPress.

JD: Yeah, folks we’re thinking you know, I’ve got a few people in Digital Ocean and I’m thinking of moving, myself try myself out first because I run, well, me and John run WP Tonic, on Digital Ocean and we’re thinking of moving it to WP Hosting Support, and letting you and your team manage it for a little while. Then if everything goes right, we’ll move some of our clients to you. Because I was actually recommended you by Brian Jackson whose been on the panel [before]. He spoke very highly of the company and the previous owner, and he also thinks you’re going to be a great success with the business.

So shout out for Brian, he kind of put me on to you. So, you’ve got many years’ experience in hosting, what do you think? I think hosting in a way has gone in the wrong direction. In some ways it’s really become very commoditized and promises things at a price level which it can’t really meet.

Would you agree with that very broad statement? And could you explain some of the things you don’t like about it — that you’re trying to solve with your own solutions?

CC: Yeah, of course I agree with that statement fully. For example, there’s a lot of unlimited shared hosting companies around. There’s one thing, there’s no such thing as unlimited [hosting resources].So that’s in my opinion — that’s just a marketing term.

Because at some stage, a host we’ll need to will need to limit your resources. I mean, they won’t be able to offer you 500 GB of disk space on a shared four-dollar hosting plan for example. There’s some stuff that are such as that. Also I feel that right now in 2016, there’s a lot of common things between all of the hosting companies.

No one is actually trying to launch something new, something out of the ordinary. So we usually see a host using cPanel, as their control panel. So it’s the same solution configured in the exact same way basically. We usually see cPanel and you might sometimes add cloud limits for separating customers between them.

Sometimes they just use Apache, sometimes even LightSpeed, sometimes, which is bigger than Apache. But none of the hosts actually try to customize their solution more for something out of the ordinary, something new. And try to offer a better service than someone else.

I feel that, we’re in a year where everything is cloned. New companies are launching but they’re like clones of the other companies.

JD: Yeah I think that’s well put. I think another fact, with all the free company’s solutions that you offer, obviously DigitalOcean was the one that I knew, we had some discussion and you pointed out the strengths and weaknesses of all three companies, that you deal with.

Is it correct that none of them — which I don’t actually think is a bad thing — sometimes when we talk to the clients, they get a bit worried. But am I correct in saying that none of the solutions offer email as part of their service?

Because I think you should separate your email like you should separate your domain from your hosting company. And first of all, am I correct about that? And secondly, do you agree that it’s a good idea to separate your email from your hosting, in a way?

CC: Yep, that’s correct. None of our packages offer email. And in my opinion, that’s actually good, because email should really be hosted by, for example, Google Apps, or special email hosting companies.

The thing that a lot of hosting providers are having again and again, is they’re having blacklisted IPs. Ultimately no one is able to send from their shared four-dollar-per-month hosting accounts. The best solution is, in my opinion, a Google Apps account, or Zoho email, or some sort of specialized company, where they specialize in providing only email hosting and they can fit the needs of a small business, or medium or large business.

And they offer much better stability than another provider.

JD: Now with your packages, am I correct, they’re all VPS solutions, is that correct?

CC: Yeah that’s correct. They’re all VPS, all the resources are dedicated to the specific clients.

JD: Now could you explain to the listeners in trying to attempt this, because I know you’re a highly technical individual. But try to explain the difference between shared hosting and VPS is. Cause I’m sure that some of our listeners totally understand, but we’ve got a very broad and diverse audience here. So maybe you could explain the difference between shared hosting and VPS. And some of the benefits that you see in running a VPS.

CC: Okay, well basically, in the shared hosting environment, you’re on a server with a couple hundred other accounts. So what that means for you, is that means it will say, one of the other sites experienced an influx of traffic, or some sort of hack attempt — that means that all sites on that server, will have some effect on that, because they’re all one server.

That means as well, that if for some reason, a site on that server gets hacked, it could very well beat up the whole IP of the server if it’s blacklisted by Google, for example and gets listed as malware. Which would affect also, your ranks in terms of SEO, in terms of the search engines.

Whereas with the VPS, you have your own IP address, your host is on your own, it’s a virtual dedicated server. So it’s not a dedicated server with it’s physical machine, but it’s a virtual server, comes with a dedicated IP, dedicated environment.

So you’re hosting on your own, so you don’t have to worry about bad neighbors for example, or someone else getting your IP blacklisted, or having it hacked, or using too many resources that would slow down your site.

JD: That’s great. And I think you filled the specification with the three companies that you work with. You offer tremendous value, don’t you? It’s probably not suitable for somebody starting out, they probably might be better off looking at shared hosting, but somebody’s that’s got an e-commerce, a membership site, a site that’s got reasonable traffic, I think you offer tremendous value.

And am I correct in those statements? Do you think that you offer great value for a person who’s got a WordPress membership site or e-commerce?

CC: Yes, of course I believe that. For example, on the e-commerce site, those type of sites are hard to run on a shared type of environment because of the resources they actually need to run successfully. And also on the other hand, there’s also a matter of, you’ll need at some stage to get PCI compliant, if you want to accept credit cards.

That’s something that can’t be done on shared hosting companies. There’s no way that can be done. That can only be done in a VPS environment, where parts can be blobbed and you can get PCI compliance hosting, so that you can accept credit cards on your site.

JD: That’s a great point. I think the other thing is, you do get some people that try and just run something like DigitalOcean on their own. But that’s pretty dicey, what are some of the problems you can have if you try and run a DigitalOcean VPS just on your own?

CC: Well the default template of DigitalOcean provides — they’re not really optimized — they really need optimization, a lot of optimization if you try to run the default template of DigitalOcean. You’ll probably not be happy with the speed that you’re going to get on your site. And that’s not your DigitalOcean, they don’t really manage the actual [instance].

They don’t really optimize the templates that they use. They just provide a basic template that fits into all, or most of their customer needs. But it’s up to their customer, to actually optimize it and make it the best, so they can get the best out of it.

JD: Yeah that’s great. So off the three plans, the three service companies that you are managing, the networks that they’re providing, which one do you think offers the best value at the present moment?

CC: Well, I think all three of them have some advantages. All three of them are continuously investing their infrastructure and their network level as well as their hardware infrastructure. Linode recently doubled their RAM on their VPS for example. DigitalOcean is having all new servers in new locations all the time, same with Vultr. They’re continuously investing.

So I would believe that all three of them, would actually be really good options at this time.

JD: Oh that’s great. I think we’re going to go for a break, so when back my co-host, John Locke, is going to ask some more questions. We’re going to delve a bit more into how to get the best value WordPress hosting you can, that’s painless, powerful and really helps your business, that doesn’t become a burden upon it. Be back in a minute folks.

We’re coming back and John’s going to take over. What’s your first question, John?

JL: Sure thing, Costantinos, a lot of small businesses that I run into, and even some larger organizations, they’re either trying to manage their own hosting or they’re hosting on an environment like GoDaddy or Hostgator.

What’s the elevator pitch that you would give to them to invest and managed WordPress hosting, like WP Hosting Spot?

CC: Yeah well as I said basically before, a shared hosting solution isn’t always the best for work precisely. if your WordPress site is large, it will start facing issues some stage with any provider. Either it’s going to hit their memory limits, or it’s going to hit some limits, that they have. Because even if they advertise unlimited everything, there’s always some limit.

Unfortunately, nothing can be unlimited, as much as companies advertise the word unlimited, it doesn’t actually exist. So in my opinion, it’s much more also secure to have your site in a managed environment. And [that’s] why a managed VPS environment is extremely more secure.

JL: Sure. Now here some questions more about technical aspects of hosting. Why should people have a CDN with their hosting, and why is that important to page speed?

CC: Yeah, okay. Well the CDN basically will offload all your images and CSS, so the CDN handles all that, so that you’ll see an immediate increase in your site speed. You’ll see seconds being shaved off from your site speed, and quicker site speed. The quicker site speed, the better it is, both for ranking purposes, both for your user experience, basically.

JL: Yeah, definitely. So here’s a question to you. Pretty soon HTTP/2 is coming, and how is that going to affect the internet as a whole and page speed in particular?

CC: Yeah well, HTTP/2 will definitely help a lot. All of our infrastructure fully supports HTTP/2. All of our stacks fully support it. And that’s also something that you don’t see in the normal shared host environment, because new technologies are more difficult to apply in a normal shared hosting environment. But they’re much easier to apply in VPS environment. So page speeds will definitely be much better now with HTTP/2.

JL: Yeah, definitely. So, and as far as caching, what sort of caching do you guys offer, or if somebody’s not using WP Hosting Spot, particular, what is caching and why is that important to page speed?

CC: Yeah caching is extremely important as well, because a cache is your site, makes it quicker for everyone to load. I usually recommend for caching at least. I usually recommend Super Cache. That seems to be one of the most stable options currently in the market.

There are a few other, but, there are a few that aren’t stable and may cause issues. WP Super Cache seems to always work, at least in my experience.

JL: Absolutely. So, I’m going to shift and talk more about how difficult has it been to make a dent in the hosting market? There’s a million hosts out there it seems. How is WP Hosting Spot going out there and finding their customers, and what steps have you taken to find those customers?

CC: Yeah, I will agree that it’s more difficult for a specialized provider to find those customers, and it’s even more difficult because we don’t offer the standardized tools, such as cPanel. The customer will, when they contact us, their first question is always, do you offer cPanel?

So we don’t offer that, but that’s because we’re a managed solution, we offer a customs stack where we concentrate on speed rather than offering something like cPanel, which is a nice control panel, I use it at times, but it’s not really optimized. It doesn’t really have any specific optimizations.

It doesn’t use engines either, it uses Apache. So that’s a huge minus on that stage. But it’s also not as easy to customize. So that’s what I would do to tell people to get one of our services, you’ll get much better speed, much better security, a lot more stable service basically, when using us rather than using their normal shared hosting provider.

JL: So then, when it comes to customer onboarding, when it comes to WP Hosting Spot not having cPanel, is there a lot of onboarding that has to be done? Or are those conversations that you have in the sales team with customers?

Or does that happen in the support side, or onboarding, how do you explain those differences?

CC: Yeah well, we do send an article when someone signs up, explaining the steps, how they can get started with their site. We do help them all along the way. As well, since we’re a managed provider, anything they need we’re always there for them and we always assist.

It’s just, there is what I believe, people sometimes get stuck in cPanel and a control panel, and sometimes, in my opinion at least, sometimes people lose on the performance benefit that a non-cPanel based solution panel can offer.

JL: So it basically boils down to education, educating the customer.

CC: Yeah, I believe there’s a lot to be done in that in educating the customer and making them aware that cPanel is a good control panel, yeah. But if you want real good performance, then we offer as WP Hosting Spot, we’ll outperform any normal cPanel or shared hosting provider.

JL: Definitely. On a shift right now, we normally ask our spotlight guests to list some of their life success or leadership principles. And you talked about community, loving what you do, customer satisfaction and setting big goals. Would you like to elaborate on those leadership and success principles?

CC: Yeah, of course, I really love what I do, every single day, all the time, I’m always there. Anyone that needs me, they know that I’m there.

JD: Can I butt in, actually? Costantinos doesn’t sleep actually. I think it’s about, almost 3 o’clock AM at your time isn’t it? But you don’t mind it, he’s available 24 hours a day, because you never sleep do you?

CC: Yep, that is true. I do try to sleep though, when possible. But always, customers are really a priority. There’s alerts coming on my phone, if there should be a server offline or something. So it’s a real 24-hour work.

JL: And that shines through, you because you do try and support customers. And again, with hosting, I think that is really one of the most important factors in choosing a host.

CC: Yeah, uptime is really important, and we try to have 100% of time, or as close as 100% as possible. Because there’s sometimes things happen out of our control, like upstream provider has issues. So, sometimes it can’t be exactly 100%, but we try to be as close to that as possible.

JL: So, and here’s the interesting thing that I think we talked about before, but you said that customer service isn’t just about answering the question the client has sent, but it’s about how it’s answered. Can you elaborate on that?

JL: Yeah exactly, because if a customer sends a question for example, “How do I log into my site?”, you could technically just answer, or you could log into your site by going to this URL use his username and password.

But I believe in offering more than that, not just sending them a kind of old answer and moving on to the next customer. I like spending some time on each individual customer, and making sure that they’re fully aware of everything, that they’re able to log in fine to their control panel or wherever they want to log in. And if they have any issues online, I’d like to hear their feedback.

That’s why we’ve also recently implemented the feedback forum on all of our tickets, so that they’re also able to submit their feedback, tell us what we’re doing, what they like about it, about us, if there’s something that we’re doing wrong. I’m always open to hear about feedback, both negative and positive, because both types of feedback help improve the company and take it to the next level. It’s really important to hear what your customers want to say.

JL: Yeah, most definitely. I’m going to kick it back to Johnathan.

JD: Yeah that’s great. I’ve got one finishing question for the actual recorded WordPress podcast, and then Constantinos, we’re asked how people get a hold of you and also got a fantastic special offer for our listeners as well. And then we’ll go on to another 10, 15 minutes, which will be for the YouTube channel and for people coming to the website, where they’ll be able to get the discount code for the special offer as well, folks.

So my final question is, how do you deal with secure socket certificates? How much are they and do you install them for clients and how much do you charge?

CC: Yeah. So all of our stacks, they include actually, Let’s Encrypt by default, I believe that Let’s Encrypt, has done great job in their work. And we fully integrated Let’s Encrypt into all our stacks, so our customers can benefit with free SSL’s for as many sites as they want at a time.

Now, in the case that they actually want to buy a SSL certificate from somewhere, we can also help them install that as well.

JD: And like if they wanted a wild card certificate, what that is folks, if you got a number of sub domains, it will be covered by the same certificate. If they wanted to install that, do you offer that and how much do you charge?

CC: Yeah well, we don’t actually sell SSL certificates, so they would need to actually buy the actual SSL certificate from somewhere else. But we would help obviously with installation and configuration of the SSL certificate. And that’s with no charge either.

JD: Just to kind of finish off the onboarding. So basically, you probably have when somebody signs up, they choose the provider from the three that you give information on, you probably then provide some forms and you said that you provide a PDF. So, you just ask for some basic information, then you set it up, then I suppose either you transfer the domain or I suppose you really prefer people that part their domain with a domain hosting company, like GoDaddy or one of the others, and then will you point it for them, or offer advice about how they point the domain to the server?

CC: Yeah, well we usually recommend actually using CloudFlare, because they provide a really good DNS hosting service, so we usually recommend customers point domain service to CloudFlare, and other sites into CloudFlare. Cause it’s a really stable service there that they offer and at least you’re sure on the DNS part that you won’t actually have any down time, or you won’t be dependent on your domain registrar DNS hosting options. Which a lot of domain registrars offer. So we fully recommend CloudFlare.

And also, there’s a lot of benefits to using CloudFlare, such as merely if it’s an update to the IP address, for example, you want to move from your previous hosting to us, to our hosting company. The IP change takes barely 15 minutes. Whereas if you were going to change the name service from one domain name provider — one domain service provider to another, it will take a few hours so actually probably get fully all around the internet.

JD: That’s great. So let’s wrap up on the podcast recording side Constantinos. How can people get a hold of you and find more about you and your company?

CC: Okay then, so we’re available through our site, WPhostingspot.com. There’s a contact form there.

We also do offer live chat, that is available for as close to 24 hours per day. Well our people can contact us at any time, and we’ll be there to help them out with any questions they have.

JD: And you’ve been very kind to offer a 20% discount and Constantinos’ team have provided a discount code, which I’m going to put on the show notes, folks. So if you go to the show notes, it’ll be there promptly, and if you go to the website and use that, you get 20% off, which is very generous of you.

How do people get a hold of you, John?

JL: You can find me at my website, which is, LockedownDesign.com. And you can also follow me on twitter, @Lockedown_.

How do the people get ahold of you, Johnathan?

JD: Well I think the main thing is be aware that WP-Tonic offer a boutique maintenance small fix service, where on a medium project, we do unlimited small jobs, covering a wide spectrum from WooCommerce to membership sites.

We also keep everything secure, up to date, and I think we offer tremendous value with a very personal touch. Our clients I personally know, and handle their requests. To get ahold of my personally, the best thing is Twitter, and use my Twitter handle, @johnathandenwood, or just email us.

The email address is all over the website. I respond to all email personally myself, and at the same, very responsive on Twitter. And a number of people have commented how responsive we are.

So we’re going to wrap up, just a couple of things folks, please go to the iTunes channel and give us a subscribe and also give us a review. That really helps, folks. And also, remember we do a live show, at the present moment doing it on Blab, but in the next few weeks we’ll probably be moving to a slightly different solution.

But that’s a live show, so you can ask us questions, and we normally have a fantastic WordPress panel, with some of the most interesting, biggest hitters in the WordPress community. So please join us at 10AM on Saturday, Pacific Standard Time, and join the conversation.

So we’re going to wrap it up now, but please stay with us or go to the YouTube channel, or to the website and listen to some more of this fascinating conversation, about hosting and how to get the best for you. See you next time, folks, bye.

All: Bye.

JD: Right so, we’ll continue this and ask Constantinos so more questions, we’ll continue the video for 10 minutes, and offer some more value.

CC: Sure thing.

JL: So, how did you come to partner with DigitalOcean and Linode and Vultr, what was that process like? Just reaching out to them and becoming partners with them?

CC: Yeah well, it’s relatively easy to be kind of partnered off with those three companies. They’re always looking out for new opportunities, because they’re looking to grow. So they’re always open and available and discussing and checking your needs and customizing and offering you customized solution.

JL: Definitely, definitely. As far as the managed WordPress space, how much room do you think there is to grow? There’s a lot of people jumping into the managed WordPress space right now, and how much opportunity do you still see out there?

CC: There’s actually really great opportunity right now. I think people are starting to understand the differences between the standard cPanel host and more specialized provider, and the benefits in choosing the more specialized provider instead of the standard cPanel host.

JD: And I think one of the great things that we didn’t touch upon, because we try and keep the interview part for the podcast on this particular show to 30 minutes. But I think in the other benefit — and I’m not knocking WP Engine or other similar companies, cause obviously WP Engine are a superb company, and the CEO and the staff are top right. But one of the things is you’re offering a real boutique service aren’t you?

Where you will work with a client, if they got a particular plug in, which might not be accessible for WP-Tonic, and it’s crucial, you will try and work with the client, won’t you Constantinos?

CC: Yep, of course. We’ll make it work basically. As long as there isn’t anything an issue with the actual coding of the development of the plug in, we’re going to make it work.

JD: So you’re getting a really kind of boutique, which obviously WP-Tonic can do, also you’re going to be offering some staging functionality for the developer crew, is that not correct?

CC: Yep, that’s correct, all of our packages include access to our staging servers, so they can, at any time, request a stage URL and we can get them set up, so they can develop their site on the staging URL, without affecting and without taking up any of the resources under VPS. So it runs independently of their VPS or other servers.

JD: So you created a very boutique [hosting solution] at an extremely competitive price, haven’t you?

CC: Yes, I believe that as well. in terms of the features we provide, I believe that as well. And we’re also going to, in the next weeks, be adding phone supports as well, in all of our site in all of our packages.

JD: Got a question, John?

JL: Yeah, most definitely. If you could point out one characteristic that separates WP Hosting Spot from your competitors, what is the one distinct thing that in your company’s story — that is different from the other companies out there, offering managed WordPress hosting?

CC: Yeah, I think that what we do is that, we concentrate on offering more personalized service. Personally, I don’t even see clients as clients. I see clients as members, I see the members of my company basically. I see them as part of my company, I will help as much as — whatever they need to do.

JD: Yeah, that’s great. Another fact, I know this is probably going to be a bit difficult, but compared to, as long as it’s set up, is there any way you can quantify the speed benefit from, let’s say, three, five, seven dollars shared hosting to when they come to one of your fully set up VPS systems?

In percentage terms, I know it’s difficult, and if you don’t want to give a percentage, I totally understand. But is there any way you can quantify the speed gain that they might obtain?

CC: Well I can actually, recently just yesterday, we were involved in migrating a couple customer’s sites from a VPS that they had, with another provider that was with cPanel. And he was having really huge loads, he was having a load of over 60, all his sites for WordPress, by the way. He was having a load of over 60 on his VPS. So he was really using up all his resources, he would have really needed to upgrade to maybe a dedicated server with that load that he had.

So we moved him over to us and we saw immediate results, in terms of load speed. He couldn’t even barely load the site, most of the time to time out or load after a couple of minutes. So we moved him to us, and he could see, his sites were all loaded within less than three seconds, from what he commented, after we removed his sites. So he saw a great improvement.

JD: Well that’s fantastic, isn’t it? I think we’ll wrap it up now. I think we’ve covered a lot, and we’re going to stop the recording now for the YouTube, and our website folks. I’d say come over on Saturday, we’re still going to be using Blab probably for the next couple of weeks, but we’re looking at better solutions, it starts at 10PM, I could say we got a fantastic lineup.

JL: 10 AM.

JD: 10 AM, thank you. Pacific Standard Time. It would be a bit late, not for Constantinos, he probably love it if it were 10PM. But it would be a bit late for old cronies like me. But we have a fantastic panel, Morten has been joining us lately. I have no idea if he’ll be joining us this Saturday, it depends on how interesting he finds the topics. So me and John, we’ll have to discuss that tomorrow.

JL: Yep.

JD: Even now, actually but probably tomorrow. Thank you Constantinos. I think it’s been a great interview, I think people really should be looking at your service. I could say, the next couple of weeks, we’ll be moving hopefully WP-Tonic to you. And thanks for coming on the show.

CC: No problem, thank you for inviting me. It was a pleasure.

JD: All right.

JL: Thank you so much.

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