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Discover the best WordPress translation plugins in 2026

In this article, we explore the top WordPress translation plugins of 2026 to help you break language barriers and expand your global reach. Discover user-friendly options, advanced features, and cost-effective solutions that make translating your website a breeze. Whether you’re a blogger, e-commerce store owner, or a business professional, you’ll find valuable insights to enhance your multilingual experience.

This Week’s Sponsors

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Choosing The Right WordPress Translation Plugin For Your Membership Website

#1 – WPML

https://wpml.org/

Prices Multilingual Blog €39.00 | Multilingual CMS €99.00 per year

#2 – Translate WordPress with GTranslate

https://gtranslate.io/

Prices Free | Custom $9.99 | Startup $19.99 | Business $29.99 | Enterprises $39.99 per month

#3 – Polylang

https://polylang.pro/

Prices Free | Pro €99.00 | Business Pack €139 per year

#4 – MultilingualPress

MultilingualPress – the perfect multilingual solution for WordPress

Prices Starter $149 | Profession $499 | Advanced $899 | Enterprise $1,499 per year

#5 – Weglot

https://www.weglot.com/

Prices free | Starter €15 | Business €29 | Pro €79 | Advanced €299 | Extended €699 per month

#6 – TranslatePress

https://translatepress.com

Prices Person €8.25 | Business €16,59 | Developer €29.09 per month billed yearly

Second Half of The Show

Why I left Circle and Closed The WPTuts Academy, Paul Charlton

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Google Gemini 3 Free & Pro – Nano Banana Pro

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Google AI Studio

https://aistudio.google.com/u/1/welcome?pli=1

Google ImageFX

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We Post

https://wepost.ai/

 

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The Show’s Main Transcript

[00:00:18.660] – Jonathan Denwood

Welcome back, folks, to the Membership Machine Show. This is episode 148. In this episode, we’ll discuss how to support multiple languages on WordPress for your membership community-focused website. It’s a strength for WordPress. We have covered this a couple of times this year, but I thought we would have a quick recap because it’s a dynamic area that continues to evolve. Then, in the second half, I think we have a quick chat with a video by Paul Charton from WP Tuts: “Why He Left Circle and Went to Fluent Community.” We then briefly discuss some AI tools or plugins that have come to our attention recently. It should be a fantastic show. So, Kurt, would you like to introduce yourself to the new listeners and viewers?

[00:01:37.580] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, certainly. My name is Kurt von Annen. I own an agency called Manana No Mas, and I work directly with WP Tonic and the great folks over it, like Lifter LMS.

[00:01:46.300] – Jonathan Denwood

That’s fantastic. As I said, it should be a great show. We’re going to be covering a ton of stuff. You should get some great value from it. But before we go into the meat and potatoes of the show, I’ve got a message from one of our major sponsors. We will be back in a few moments. Three, two, one. We’re coming back, folks. I want to point out we’ve got a fabulous resource for you, folks. We have special offers from our sponsors. Additionally, I’ve compiled a list of the best WordPress tools and services to help you build your membership website at the end of 2025 and the beginning of 2026. We’ve built this membership site and have all the tools to help you. To get all these goodies, all you have to do is go over to wp-tonic. Com/deals, WPTonic-WPTonic. Com. Tonic. Com/deals. Plus, we got a special offer on a course from Kurt himself that will show you how to utilize these tools and build your website from beginning to end, and you get it at a 50% discount. Additionally, if you host with WP Tonic, you get access to all these tools as part of your hosting package.

[00:03:08.620] – Jonathan Denwood

So what more could you ask for, my beloved listeners? So let’s go straight into it, Kurt. Where do you think we are with WordPress and multilingual support?

[00:03:20.260] – Kurt von Ahnen

I think we’re at a crossroads. The more I think about it and the more I see the work I have been doing with Lifter and WP Tonic, the more I see value in translation. I see that people want to do things in different languages. They want to express themselves. They want to control how they express themselves across languages. But we’re also in a time when browsers are doing a lot of translation, and there’s a lot of AI injection at different points. I think it’s a good idea to grade the line or blur the boundary between when a business decides to translate its site formally and when it allows a third party to take control.

[00:04:11.920] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, because it is work. We support one or two large websites, and we have… It will be on the list anyway. We tend to recommend it when we supply the plugin as part of our hosting package, and they’ve been very supportive. But whatever tool you use, it will have some hiccups, and it’s a very dynamic area. With AI, isn’t it?

[00:04:43.000] – Kurt von Ahnen

It’s the hiccups that they choose not to expect it. That’s the problem. It’s so typical. You might be running a membership website with subscriptions and have 5,000-6,000 people on the site. And then you’ll get one person who says, “Oh, I couldn’t log in, or my credit card wouldn’t go through, or whatever.” And it’s like the sky is falling, the website is broken, something’s not working. And it’s on a percentage basis: if you have five or six thousand users and one user is having a problem, that’s probably not a problem. It’s perhaps an end user, an end user device, an end user VPN connection. Many things interact, and language, to me, is similar to that, whereas there might be a glitch. There might be an automatic translation issue. There might be. This worked well for three months, and now my receipts are showing an unusual script I wasn’t expecting. Unfortunately, I think that with any project that adds complexity or automation, there will be moderation, babysitting, and maintenance. And I think that’s where many people are getting frustrated, especially with the hype around AI and the notion that everything has an easy button and should be automatic nowadays.

[00:06:16.920] – Kurt von Ahnen

It’s not. There are automations, AI, and processes. But with each layer of complexity or automation comes the risk of error, and you need people to moderate and maintain it.

[00:06:33.160] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. Let’s quickly get through this, as we’re covering it in the first half. Sorry, I think it’s so long. We selected WPML, which was very popular at the beginning. I think they’re doing okay, but there are better solutions in the WordPress space. It’s still very popular. One thing I find a bit unusual is that their pricing page is still only in euros. They don’t use dollars or pounds.

 

[00:07:11.720] – Kurt von Ahnen

Not very good at translation, huh?

 

[00:07:13.880] – Jonathan Denwood

I wasn’t going to go there. It’s 39 euros or 99 euros. Have you got any experience with this one?

 

[00:07:24.220] – Kurt von Ahnen

Actually, WPML did some content with Chris at Lifter, and My memory, I have a memory like an elephant, no noise. I think it was four and a half years ago. It was about four, four and a half years ago, and it was really great content. And I thought it was like Earth shaking at the time. My issue is I haven’t seen or heard much from them since. They set up a decent product, they set up a decent product. They set up a great service, they’ve priced it modestly, it’s not hugely expensive, and I think it performs well. But I think if you were an agency, for example, you would be looking at $200 a month, right? Because that price is per month, I assume.

 

[00:08:08.140] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. Where it had reputation is if you hired a professional translator It was one of the best solutions if you had somebody doing manual with some. That’s where it’s strength. But don’t get me wrong, AI, it’s got the translation better, but it’s not perfect. It’s It’s not perfect. If you want a fantastic result, you need to utilize one of these tools without… And maybe at some stage, get a translator, but that’s a big investment. But On to the next one, which is very different. Translate WordPress with G Translate, really popular as a free resource. They’ve got a custom at 99 startup at night, around $20, business at 29, enterprise 39. So they got a lot of prices. Works with Google Translate, the free service gives WordPress interface. But I think they got a lot of traction because it was the plugin to utilize with Google Translate, wasn’t it? Would you agree with what I just outlined?

 

[00:09:19.140] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, and I’ve had clients on Google Translate before that I’ve migrated into my hosting and used other tools with. But when people get started, And I got to say this in a way, I don’t want to talk down to folks. They get started, they might be in the Google Empire already. Maybe they’re using Google Workspaces, maybe they’re using Google Docs for things. And then they see Google Translate, they have Google Translate on their Android phone. It all makes sense. And they’re able to plug into things and get going with translations very affordably, very affordably. But I find that over time, as the project grows, you’re going to want a more professional translation I have not used G Translate as a layer above Google Translate. I’ve only worked with Google Translate. And then I guess this G Translate is a layer on top of that.

 

[00:10:12.040] – Jonathan Denwood

Polyland, another been around a few years. I’ve never used it in Anger. It’s the same as WPML. They only have prices in euros, free. They got a free version. They got a 99, and they 139. Do you know anything about this one? It’s credible. All the ones I’ve put on there, I think, are reasonably credible, but I’ve never used it in anger.

 

[00:10:40.960] – Kurt von Ahnen

Had a client on Polylang. I found it to be a little more clunky than what you and I are used to, but it did integrate with DeepL at the higher package.

 

[00:10:51.680] – Jonathan Denwood

Oh, it does.

 

[00:10:52.760] – Kurt von Ahnen

But it says 30 languages. I know that people listening to this are like, 30 languages. That’s phenomenal. There’s other translation tools that have like 210 languages. So everything is on a sliding scale of effectiveness. And this is why use case is so important when you’re talking about something like translations. Like, what are your specific needs and what languages do you need and at what depth do you need? For instance, the client that I had that was on Polylang that was using DeepL, they were a technical training Corporation. And the terms and the nomenclatures used in this machinery, they had to be precise. It couldn’t be like the cog, the wheel, the gear. It had to be like the bell, bell, washer. It had to be very specific. And they wanted to use a very specific language translation tool to make sure things didn’t get miscommunicated.

 

[00:11:54.880] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. And you just mentioned, Kurt mentioned DeepL. What that’s about is a lot of people, a lot of these plugins, a lot of people use the Google Translate, and it’s free, but it’s not the best. It’s a quasar, large learning language model. That’s the technology that Google’s using. But there’s an open source. It’s free but also paid for. You do need the paid version, really, because it’s token-based. They’re based in Germany and It’s DL, and it’s a quasar open source, but you do have to pay for it. It’s supposed to be more accurate than Google. But obviously, I’m not in a position, but when I was doing the studying, that’s what a lot of people were saying, which surprised me because Google’s got billions of dollars, and they got Gemini, and they got now supposed to be the best large language model out there, better than Open. So we have to see, but that’s what I read. Before we go too far, I also wanted to point out some of the things that we’ve been mentioning so far, the free version won’t do certain pages in your site.

 

[00:13:20.320] – Kurt von Ahnen

It doesn’t do Woocommerce. It doesn’t do. You have to get the the upper tier or the premier pricing to get to get like, WooCommerce translations or to get other kinds of dynamic page translation. So just to be clear, again, use case, look at the details before you make a purchase decision.

 

[00:13:41.460] – Jonathan Denwood

And a lot of these companies are European-based, which isn’t surprising because obviously you’re in a common market apart from Britain. But there’s a lot of different languages. That’s why I think a lot of these companies are in Europe because I think in the union, it’s over 30 countries now, and they’re all got different languages. So you want to sell, but you’re using the Euro. That’s why I would imagine this. That’s why. And on to the next one, multilingual press. I have no… Came on my list. Prices start, it’s one of the more expensive ones, 149, 499, then 800, and then enterprise is like $1,500 a year. Any knowledge of this one?

 

[00:14:36.580] – Kurt von Ahnen

I’ve never used it, and I don’t think I ever would, to be honest, Jonathan. It’s for $900 a year, I get access to 12 languages. For $500 a year, I get access to six languages. You and I share a client, right? That’s using something like 18 languages on their website and has three or 4,000 users in it. We would not be financially sustainable at this pricing.

 

[00:15:02.680] – Jonathan Denwood

On to the next one, WebLot. Am I- Wiglot. Pardon?

 

[00:15:09.180] – Kurt von Ahnen

Wiglot.

 

[00:15:09.940] – Jonathan Denwood

Wiglot. I always pronounce it. Based in Europe, got the prices in Europe. It’s the big daddy in the WordPress space, isn’t it? It’s a SaaS model. You get a plugin, and I think they’re doing the translations. They’re using… They don’t make public what technology they’re using. Are they using a DL, their own? What large language model they’re utilizing? I don’t think they make it public. They got a three, but that’s really cut down. They got a starter €15, business €29. They’ve got a lot of pricing. It goes up to extended at €699 per month. €700 a month. €700 a month.

 

[00:15:57.440] – Kurt von Ahnen

€700.

 

[00:15:57.980] – Jonathan Denwood

€700. Yeah. But If you got a large e-commerce website doing a million, three million a month, and you need multiple languages, that’s peanuts, isn’t it? It’s supposed to be… When I used it with a client, it was a few years ago, it was very, very good. I don’t know if you’ve got any experience with it.

 

[00:16:19.840] – Kurt von Ahnen

No. I’ve worked on sites that used it, but I did not use it itself.

 

[00:16:27.360] – Jonathan Denwood

But in the WordPress space, it’s seen as one of the top performers. I thought the one that we offer as part of our package, and I think is the best value still, is Translate Press. They offered either Google Translate or DL, but recently, they’ve done what WebLot do. They’ve offered their own solution. I don’t know where they’re getting it from. There must be utilizing one of the large language models. I know it’s a few months they’ve introduced that. They still offer Google and DeepL as option, but they’re offering their own solution as well. The I bought the prices. I bought the plugin. It’s also in euros, but I bought the plugin, but the plugin only works with Google and with DeepL. I suppose that’s the main difference. These prices, they’re monthly, and they’ve adopted the same model as WebLot, where it’s a SaaS-based model as well, where you have access to the solution which they’re offering. It starts at 8: 25, business 16: 59 and developer 29, compared to the previous one, that’s very attractive, isn’t it? Plus, you have option of still using Google Translate or DeepL, haven’t you?

 

[00:18:05.040] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. And at 3: 49 for the year, that’s almost half of what that one was for the month. That’s a big, big deal. And that’s for use on unlimited sites. If you’re an agency and you’re trying to figure out how to maximize your margins, Translate Press seems to me to be the one that jumps off the page.

 

[00:18:28.260] – Jonathan Denwood

They’re a very credible company, They do a great newsletter. They always mention one of my shows. I feel warm and cuddly towards them. But whatever the solutions you choose, folks, The idea that it’s just going to do everything and it’s not going to be the odd bug and problem, you’re deluded because it’s like adding a community to a membership website. It’s a great idea, and in the right circumstance, it’s the right idea, but it will cause a lot more work, won’t it?

 

[00:19:11.620] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, it’s very interesting to me the way people sometimes think about this. I’m thinking about the two different workflows and two different tools that I get to use in language. One is Translate Press and the other is Loco Translate.

 

[00:19:26.420] – Jonathan Denwood

I haven’t mentioned that one. Can you talk about that one?

 

[00:19:29.060] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, Loco Translate It’s real common in the Lifter LMS space. It’s one of the recommended resources there. And what we use Logo Translate for most in the LMS area is it translates the word all through the website. So if you had a thing that would say your courses are called courses, but you want to call them classes instead, you go into local translate and it says exchange this English word for this English word, and then we change that term. And And that’s the way the language thing works as well, right? From English to a foreign language. But it’s done in a separate page inside the back-end. Whereas when you are making edits and translate press, I don’t want to say it’s like the block editor because that’d be a lie, but it’s like you see a representation of the page that you want to translate. And so you click what you want to edit, and then the field is right there on the left. So the user interface, if you have to get hands-on and do manual translations for part of your translation package. Translate Press is much more intuitive than some of the other tools that are out there.

 

[00:20:39.480] – Jonathan Denwood

Well, that was a good roundup. We’re giving you some good options. If you want to know some more, think about signing up for the WP tonic newsletter. I’m going to revamp it. It’s going to be aimed at membership with tips and other great content. Think about signing that up. There’ll be a link. You’ll be able to sign on the WP Tonic website. We’re going to go for our break, folks. When we come back, we’re going to have a chat about circle Paul Charton from WP Tuts, why he left it. Also my experience with some of the latest learning language models and Kirk’s insights about some WordPress It should be a great second half. We will be back in a few moments, folks. Three, two, one. We’re coming back, folks. Got asked here if you are listening on Spotify or iTunes on your mobile device, why don’t you leave us a review? Both me and Kirk will be really happy if you did that. It really promotes the show to new people and it helps the show grow. If you could do that, we would be really appreciative. Something came on my radar, YouTube video from Paul Charton from WP Tuts.

 

[00:22:12.740] – Jonathan Denwood

If you don’t know about him, folks, he does a load of WordPress reviews and lessons. It’s a great resource if you’re getting into WordPress. He still has his own WordPress Academy, and we call it WP Tuck Academy. He was using Circle, and he said that he jumped ship because It was very similar to a lot of people that use non-wordpress. He said it was about $100, but the price soon accelerated rapidly. If you wanted to upload a lot of video, it got very expensive. You could use something like bunny. Net. He said the email side, the email marketing side, integrating, he wanted it to integrate with Fluent CRM. He just said it just was getting very expensive and restrictive. It’s the same old story, isn’t it, Kurt? He’s jumped to Fluent Community, which we love. You probably haven’t seen the video. I don’t know if you have. I did. Oh, you did. What was your reaction to it?

 

[00:23:40.600] – Kurt von Ahnen

My reaction was what took so long. Just to be honest, I’m with you. I don’t mean to sound so brash, but Kevin Geary’s group is in circle. I just remember when I first signed up for Etch and then got the circle invite, I was like, What are we doing here? I’m just confused. There are great tools inside the WordPress space, and when you are being an outspoken voice in the WordPress market, it just makes sense to have WordPress space. Not to mention the things we talk about on the show all the time, Jonathan, the membership machine. So it’s all about ownership of your platform, ownership of your data, the flexibility of WordPress. And so it’s really It’s weird to see people in our space that are well known that still get caught out by the SaaS limitations.

 

[00:24:37.320] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, and it’s a great product circle, but there’s no… Fluent community now is very strong. It does everything like school or circle does, and you get the ownership and the cost savings, because he was saying, especially if you’re offering a lot of free content, free courses mixed, and use it as a lead magnet, don’t you? The free courses. He says it gets very expensive if you’ve got very popular free courses, which you’re going to, aren’t you? Because it’s going to be utilized as a lead magnet, and you hope to get a percentage of those that join the free courses to sign up for the paid courses. But if you’re on a platform that you chart, it can get very expensive, can’t it? Very quickly.

 

[00:25:26.900] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, and I’m sure that there are people that will listen to this and go, Well, that’s the cost of doing business. If you grow, it’s going to be raised expenses. But the whole idea of what we promote here in our little space is if you make the right decisions, As you grow, you’re going to increase your margins and profit. You shouldn’t increase your revenue but lose margin. That doesn’t make sense. That model doesn’t make sense. So you want to stay, at least I would think, as long as you have the design freedom and the functionality that you’re looking for, you should want to stay in a platform that you have ownership of and control of.

 

[00:26:10.700] – Jonathan Denwood

The link to that video will be in the show notes. Everything we talk about, we’ll have links.

 

[00:26:18.840] – Kurt von Ahnen

By the way, when people do watch his video, he is a master communicator. He is extending pre-existing people. They’re not automatically being renewed. When you start a new subscription in WordPress, you have to start a new subscription in WordPress. But he’s starting them all with the same expiration date thing. If you watch the video, just pay attention to his workflow and how he’s doing this transition. This is a master study on how to make this transition, do it smoothly, and treat people right. He’s doing a really good job.

 

[00:27:01.140] – Jonathan Denwood

That’s a great point. On to my investigations of large learning AI and large learning models. So I thought I would, first of all, I went back to Notebook LM, which I still really like. I used it for some research that I wanted to do, market research, and it did a fantastic job. At the time, though, when I wanted to do some infographics, and I’m using the free, unless you’re doing a high volume, I don’t really see a point in going for the pro level. But if I reach the limit, I am going to be… I think it’s one of the best tools, AI general tools that I’ve come across. But when I was going to use it, they had that blanked off. They said it was temporarily not usable, but I logged in today and it’s up again and does some really fantastic infographics, does really good research. You can import PDFs, you can import ULRIs, and it will do research for you. It’s one of the more useful tools. I wanted to do some thumbnails, so I went into Google Gemini and used Nero Banana, nano banana pro. I can I use it because I’ve got a couple Google Gmail Workspace accounts and you get access.

 

[00:28:38.780] – Jonathan Denwood

I wasted two hours there trying to persuade it to produce some images in Landscape, and totally failed and got very fed up. Then I came across who was a famous influencer in the WordPress space, Kim Dole, but She has ditched WordPress for various reasons, but I still watch some of her YouTube videos, and she put me on to Google AI Studio and their image effect. They got numerous different products out there. This is one of the problems of Google, I find. It’s very confusing. So as part of their Gemini Google AI Studio, you get access to imagefx. It’s got a separate URL and a separate interface, and it wasn’t totally clear. If I log in to Google AI Studio how I get to image, it took a Google search to find that one out, but I got there, and it’s much easier, and you get landscapes in the right ratio dimensions, and I managed to knock it out, and it did a pretty good job. But it took about three hours.

 

[00:30:06.660] – Kurt von Ahnen

Three hours to make it.

 

[00:30:09.020] – Jonathan Denwood

Which I could have done in Canva in about 20 minutes.

 

[00:30:14.000] – Kurt von Ahnen

This is the biggest problem that I’m seeing right now in this whole space, and that is something new comes out, everybody wants to sworn on it, and they get frustrated or they get mixed results. And in mass, we are doing this. And we’re independent agency people, Jonathan. We’re not on someone else’s time clock, so it’s hard for us to equate this time to dollars. But if we were to break our days into what makes us dollars, this is expensive.

 

[00:30:46.420] – Jonathan Denwood

I have better things to do in my three hours than part around with trying to get into landscape. I only did it. I didn’t realize how much bloody time I was wasting until I looked up on the clock and thought, Oh, my God, 2 hours plus have gone.

 

[00:31:03.500] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. Canva, I can get some pretty consistent results in, and it works in my workflow, and I can do it in a timely basis. But like yourself, I have begun to sample some other AI tools, and I’m getting very mixed results on the image things. But here’s something that I constantly forget about that I have access to-Grock, your beloved Grock.

 

[00:31:29.050] – Jonathan Denwood

Is that what you’re going to I love Grock.

 

[00:31:30.870] – Kurt von Ahnen

I love Groch. Groch is in my phone. I pick the easy-going voice. He’s fun when he talks back to me. He’s the one that gave me the Rulatin recipe that I made last week that was so delicious.

 

[00:31:42.670] – Jonathan Denwood

I interrupted, as always, though. What was he doing?

 

[00:31:45.580] – Kurt von Ahnen

I’m up for the rabbit Trail. I like food. No, in terms of working, I always forget that I’m an Adobe Creative Cloud subscriber. And Adobe has some amazing AI graphic tool, and they’re not part of the normal… They’re not the apps in your computer, they’re in the browser. So I consistently forget that I have access to them. And I think- You’re talking about Adobe Express, are you? Yeah, Express. Well, In other words, just like Google, there’s two or three different versions of Express. And then there’s… So you got to know what you’re using. But I find that their tools, once I’m in, are a little more intuitive than some of the other language model AI image generators. For instance, Midjourney, I get lost in Midjourney, and I know people that love Midjourney, but I never get the-I find it a dog’s breakfast, I’ve been interface a total dog’s breakfast. I never get what I’m expecting out of it. It makes cool stuff. See, that’s the problem that I have with AI in general, Jonathan, is that people get in there and they play around, especially people that aren’t depending on the real output to be specific.

 

[00:32:57.300] – Kurt von Ahnen

So they get in there and they play around, and it generates something that looks cool or feels cool or one of those cool AI videos on Sora, and they go, Oh, look at this amazing thing I made. I go, Okay, but is it specifically what you asked for? And they’re like, Well, no, but it’s cool. And I’m like, I’m in business, I can’t make something that’s cool. I need to make something that’s specific.

 

[00:33:17.400] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah. One thing I couldn’t get image effects to do. I did get some results that I could use, but I thought I would try this. I said in the prompt, I said, Jonathan Denwood, owner of WP Tonic, Landscape Ratio, Jonathan Denwood, the owner of WP Tonic, and make sure the background is a picture of London. It did a great job, but it wasn’t me. There’s no way of importing some of these. You can import the image into it, but you can’t do that with image You can’t import the image. Maybe with Adobe Express, you can. So it couldn’t understand. I kept expanding the prompt. It found somebody, and the image of London was fantastic, but it wasn’t the image of me. I only spent 15 minutes on that, not 2 hours.

 

[00:34:25.580] – Kurt von Ahnen

I’ve been talking to more and more people. I find that Especially in our space, when you start talking about AI, everyone acts like they know what they’re talking about, right? Because they don’t want to act like they can’t figure it out. So everyone wants to be smart. But when you start to voice, well, I’m having an issue or I’m having a difficulty, they go, oh, that happened to me, too. And then you start to feel, okay, so we’re all feeling this way. So everyone’s beating the drum talking about how great AI is, and it is. There are some great things to do with AI, but by and large, most people are not getting the precise results they are looking for.

 

[00:35:00.000] – Jonathan Denwood

Now, Kim, in her videos, she put me on another AI product. They do offer a free version, but there’s paid versions, and it was something called WePost, W-E-Post. It’s a social media scheduler, and it looks pretty good. You give it URL, your website, and you connect it to your existing, and it sucks all your previous content and analyzes it. Then you say, I want this type of post, and I want that type of post, and it knocks it out. It comes with an editor, an editor like Canva. If it makes mistakes, you don’t have to spend a load of days with a prompt. You can go in and edit because a lot of these don’t handle text that well, and they make spelling mistakes. But you do get editor, like a Canva editor, and then it’s got the traditional… I will be looking at it some more. I only done a provisional look at it, but I was quite impressed with this wee post, and it’s developed by two guys in Norway. It looks like one of those tools which might be worthwhile having more of a look at. It’s weepost, W-E-Post. Ai. Have a look at that.

 

[00:36:40.700] – Jonathan Denwood

Anything came on your radar in the WordPress space that you want to share with us? Share on the membership mission? Because we’ve had Cyber Monday and Black Thursday.

 

[00:36:51.780] – Kurt von Ahnen

I got so much spam over the weekend and in the Cyber Monday that I literally couldn’t even look at my inbox. It It was ridiculous. A couple of things really, really popped off. I know that Adam Pricer, Adam Pricer, right? Is that how you say his name? His whole thing was SureCart and SureThis and SureThat and Auto kit and all that. They had some sales and they have that new SEO tool that they’ve been pushing real hard. I got to say, I was a little tempted to maybe jump in and play with that one.

 

[00:37:29.440] – Jonathan Denwood

I did not What’s this about then?

 

[00:37:32.100] – Kurt von Ahnen

Well, gosh, I hate to compare them directly to fluent as you- I meant the SEO tool. Yeah, that’s SureRank.

 

[00:37:46.420] – Jonathan Denwood

Why was you tempted?

 

[00:37:48.840] – Kurt von Ahnen

Because the price was good. It was like- I’ll tell you, the one to use is SEO Press. Yeah, I haven’t used that one yet.

 

[00:37:57.360] – Jonathan Denwood

It’s $40 a year. It’s simple. All these other complicated tools, they’re not really going to do too much.

 

[00:38:07.900] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. It’s a struggle with SEO lately because there’s so much conflicting stuff out there. At the end of the day, when they say, oh, your keywords and your title and your this and your that, it’s like, well, I still want my stuff to be readable. I still want it to be in my voice, and I still want it to make sense to the people that are viewing my website. But then people will be quick to answer you and say, Well, SEO is for the bots to be able to refer it to people to come see your website in the first place. So you’re not going to get people to your website to read your content if the bots don’t send them there at all. So SEO is a very confusing, contradictory subject for me. But that was one of them. I was real tempted on that. I got involved with Fluent Cart pretty heavy over the last week, and I made a video for Lifter LMS.

 

[00:38:55.580] – Jonathan Denwood

Tell the listeners about Fluent Cart.

 

[00:38:58.140] – Kurt von Ahnen

Well, I think Fluent Cart is Game changer, it might be too big of a word, but Fluent Cart is a shopping cart for the WordPress space. The reason I got involved with Fluent Cart is because Fluent Cart Pro has an instant integration with Lifter LMS, and my agency is super big in the Lifter space. And so I said, Yeah, let’s check this out. So I immediately checked it out, and I checked out the integration with Fluent CRM Pro and Fluent Form, because we’re big on that with WP tonic. And so I was like, The installation and the setup was amazingly simple. And I’m saying in comparison to the juggernaut in the shopping cart space in WordPress. Compared to Woo, it was super easy to set up. So everything was set up, boom, post-haste. If you wanted to put in sample product, like how SureCart does the sample product, it was almost the same. It dumped a bunch of sample product in so that you could see the way things are supposed to look, supposed to work. But the integration with Lifter LMS was super clean, super smooth, super easy. And the thing that caught my eye the most was the website didn’t slow down at all between regular web pages, dynamic web pages for courses or shopping cart pages.

 

[00:40:27.180] – Kurt von Ahnen

Whereas in a heavily used Woocommerce site, I’ve noticed there’s performance gaps where the site will run slow. The speed seems to be really high. Now, I’ve done some look, I’ve looked at other people’s reviews on the product, and I think WP Tuts is one of them, where he’s like, it’s super fast, it’s super lightweight, the performance is unbelievable. I think that’ll come over time because I’m actively using it now on Mañana No Mas. So it’ll be interesting to see over time how it where it really goes. But the integration with Lifter LMS was automatic and seamless, which to me is… I mean, we’re already knocking it out of the park, but then I’m already using Fluent CRM and Fluent Form. And then so that puts it together for me like a perfect suite of… It’s just a perfect tech stack for a medium-sized training company.

 

[00:41:22.940] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, and the company and the founder, Joel, and his team has a large team in Bangladesh, and they’ve produced their part of the Fluent family, the Fluent CRM, Fluent Community, Fluent Forms, Fluent Booking. They got a lot of Fluent, but it’s all great stuff. At WP Tonic, we’ve just recently added Fluent Car. We’ll be adding that to our offering, folks. Now, another The one that has added some fantastic functionality that we’ve reviewed is Creative LMS.

 

[00:42:11.320] – Kurt von Ahnen

Creator LMS.

 

[00:42:12.380] – Jonathan Denwood

Creator, sorry. Yes, Creator.

 

[00:42:14.010] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, Creator LMS. It’s interesting because there’s different use cases for everything. Creator LMS is different in the back-end than, say, a LearnDash or a Lifter LMS. It feels It was more sassy in the back end of the website, but it is coming out of the shoot really strong with some added features that a lot of course creators or coaches would really appreciate. The new The biggest thing that came out with last week was the ability to schedule and host live events through the platform. And so you can hook it up to either Zoom or I think Google Meet is coming next week. So So you can hook it up to Zoom or Google Meet, or you could do in-person, right? So you could set up in-person events, but then you can set up these in-person events, you can sell access to these in-person events, and then you can integrate those events with your lessons, your courses, and the other things that you’re doing within your LMS. And so that’s a real strong offer that’s out there in the learning space. And it’s a pretty new product. It took them three years to make it, but we I interviewed Sulton, their marketing guy, what, two months ago or something, Jonathan, when they first came out with that.

 

[00:43:36.940] – Kurt von Ahnen

And they’ve made they’ve made consistent updates and tweaks since its release. And I actually did a I actually did a review of the product on my Facebook, on my YouTube channel.

 

[00:43:50.300] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, it looks like it comes from a credible company. Rextheme. Pardon?

 

[00:43:57.300] – Kurt von Ahnen

It comes from REXtheme.

 

[00:44:01.840] – Jonathan Denwood

They do WP Funnels and mint. These are all tools that we provide at WP Tonic. The truth is, we love Lifter LMS, but the one where the amount of development has really not been there for several years, but it is still very popular, is LearnDash. The development is progressing. But it’s called technical legacy. Where you got a lot of old… And this affects WU commerce because you want backward compatibility. You don’t want to break things or break people’s hearts. All software faces the question of how long to support legacy software and when to require users to update or migrate to a more modern framework, doesn’t it?

[00:45:11.960] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. It’s unique, and I don’t know enough about the inner workings of LearnDash, so I don’t want to be out of pocket and say things I shouldn’t. I’ve been thrilled to be part of the Lifter team and to see the new initiatives they’re moving forward with. In the last year, they’ve redone social learning and private areas, adding new automation tools. Cohorts aren’t that old. That’s been out. They’ve monetized groups as a feature. We have a new continuing education add-on that was released last week.

[00:45:49.810] – Jonathan Denwood

Which is fantastic.

[00:45:51.350] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah, well, in my mind, overdue, right? That’s one of those things that people have been asking for for a long time, but it’s done. And so it is. You can see the night-and-day difference between something that’s holding steady and something that keeps forging forward.

[00:46:07.020] – Jonathan Denwood

To finish off about the Creator, LMS, you were saying that they’ve got this because, actually, it’s pretty essential. They’ve got this, if you want to book community sessions, they’ve got automatic integration with Zoom and Google Meet, I think you were saying.

[00:46:33.380] – Kurt von Ahnen

Yeah. And that to me is… That’s something I wish Lifter had. That’s an element Lifter doesn’t currently have out of the box. You could add Zoom integrations to your… Pardon me. You could add Zoom integrations to your website and work out the logistics. But with Creator LMS, it’s now out of the box.

[00:46:57.360] – Jonathan Denwood

Yeah, that’s really handy. I think we’re close up now, Kurt. I think we’ve covered a ton of stuff. So what’s the best way for people to find out more about you and what you’re up to, Kurt?

[00:47:10.920] – Kurt von Ahnen

If it’s business, I’m at Mañana No Mas on all the socials and maniananomas. Com. If you want to connect on a personal basis or discuss anything else, that would be on LinkedIn. I’m the only Kurt von Annen on LinkedIn, which makes me super easy to find there.

[00:47:28.720] – Jonathan Denwood

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